A reflection on the narration of the tragedy of migrants, as seen from different perspectives. With Matina Stevis, WSJ Africa correspondent, who has covered refugees and migrants in Europe, the Middle East and Africa during her career, with Alessandro Leogrande, author of the book La Frontiera (The Border) which brings us into the world of traffickers, baby-smugglers, into the stories of those who survived shipwrecks off the coast of Lampedusa, and with the personal experiences of Aris Messinis, chief photographer of AFP Athens, present during a 2015 arrival of migrants on the island of Lesbos when he became a protagonist himself on deciding to stop taking photos in order to help people get ashore after the shipwreck. What is the objective of the people narrating these stories? And on what occasions does the act of bearing witness leave space for empathy and direct action?